. >> we have five basic parts for my plan with energy independence. the next will create 4 million jobs and the no. 2 would open more trade with latin america. crack down and china and also make people sure that they have the schoo the skills they need and also get us to a balanced budget. and champion small business. it is small business that creates the jobs in america. over the last four years small business has created that america might not be the place to open america because new business start- ups are to a new low. i know what it takes to get small businesses going and hiring people. i am concerned that this path could be unsuccessful. >>catherine: this continues. with this poll thinking that people that the president will come out ahead. observers say that mitt romney is also looking stronger. you never know what to expect and there are going to be two more debates after this one. >> we are live from a kron 4 news room keeping this very close eye. with just 30 minutes and. with our political expert. and 30 minutes live. >> i think that mitt r